He’s about to spit. But why? But why? You are disgusting. But why? Then what should be done? Should we just let it happen? Okay, okay. Please! Because he is cutting my throat for the Hungarian light. Maybe there are events where mostly older people are present, but the events I went to had a lot of young people. But calm down, let’s clarify this at the beginning, because we really don’t want to travel and I’m glad they saw you and you should do good work.
We do not owe Ukraine anything, but absolutely nothing. We owe them nothing!
The National Resistance Movement called Fidesz supporters to the streets to protest against President Zelensky, and we came here and asked the participants.
Why did you think it was important to come to this protest?
Well, we see what is happening. The fact that the Prime Minister is being threatened. And in general the fact that our energy security, or that we can get fuel, is in danger. I think nobody has the right to do that. We have the right that this oil pipeline should be opened.
And to be honest, I am worried about what will happen. Because this is obviously a political, how should I say, blackmail. Rather than something that happens because of a technical reason.
And I think that if everyone is talking about their rights, and about how every country should have them, especially since in theory this should get a green light. So I think that every Hungarian has a duty. And completely independent of party politics it is important that we stand up for our own country.
Now we have to stand up more and more strongly for normality, because it is now completely starting to disappear. The many lies and hypocrisy completely take away the common sense of some people.
Because I would not like Hungary to be harmed, and the Hungarian prime minister to be threatened. I am not a Fidesz supporter, but now I have to stand next to them.
Who will you vote for, if it is not a secret?
For the first time in my life maybe Fidesz. And should I tell you why? Because of the war situation.
Otherwise I was with Mi Hazánk, and I still find Mi Hazánk more sympathetic. But now the situation is that it is more important that Tisza should go away than that Mi Hazánk achieves a better result.
The country must declare everything with which it protests against what Ukraine and its allies are doing.
It was interesting what you said, that you travel around the country. Why do you think the government will change today? The pro-government rallies have far fewer young people than the other side.
Interestingly I do not experience that. I go to many events, even anti-war gatherings. I take photos with a lot of young people.
I think that obviously a conservative-valued person has a certain age threshold until they mature enough to understand why we turn from that great rebellious freedom into a conscious and responsible person.
But those whose parents pass this on to the younger generation — it can be seen that they did a good job, because I do not experience this actually.
Maybe there are events where mostly older people are present, but the events I went to had many young people.
We went to many pro-government demonstrations in recent times, and our experience was that there were very few young people present there as well. Why do you think that is?
I don’t know. I have no idea.
But you also noticed this difference, that at the opposition events there are more young people.
I haven’t looked at it from that perspective yet, but from now on I will.
Young people grew up in a social system that does not know the past. I still know it. The other system too.
And I know that when they tell people that, well, you know, you have an Audi, you have a Volkswagen, and you can afford all this now. So politics does not interest them so much.
Young people generally are not interested in politics, because many other things are more important to them — social relationships. I think that is mainly the reason.
When I was younger I was not very interested either.
Why are young people not at such demonstrations?
They have been brainwashed. Unfortunately.
They are at home. But maybe here there are a bit more young people than usual.
Unfortunately this is the failure of education policy that Fidesz also does. Sorry, let me criticize them a bit.
Hungarian youth must be raised to patriotism, and if someone is a patriot then they know that this is where they belong.
I’ll spit right away. But why? Why? You are disgusting. Why?
He got nervous.
Yes, he saw this sign I had and got nervous.
Why do you think that is?
Well… because their propaganda says something else.
These people are filthy.
I don’t think they are filthy.
Orbán Viktor also talked about a new world order forming, where America and China are strengthening. And we can see that we are now between two chairs, and that is where the conflict comes from. If you had to choose in this new world order, whose side should we stand on?
The Russians. So next to China.
The kid is from Momentum, be careful!
I am not from Momentum. Of course not. Completely independent.
But why would I be from Momentum? I don’t understand that.
If China stands next to Russia, there is nothing wrong with that.
And one more important thing: we should leave the EU and NATO. The EU indebts us and leads us into war, and NATO also leads us into war. Hungary should move toward neutrality.
Yesterday Magyar Péter also condemned Zelensky’s threat, and today the European Commission also condemned his words. But after that today the Ukrainian money couriers were caught, and this very interesting situation developed. How much do you think this helps peace and restarting the oil pipeline?
I think that if we look back one month, how things stood then — clearly events are getting harsher day by day. And this is what really frightened me as well.
As a mother, as a Hungarian, and as a musician.
The fact that I travel around the country, I would like to reach as many places as possible. And if we are really talking about the possibility that our basic needs could be threatened, then I think people should wake up and realize that there is a problem.
We should not trivialize it or say that there is no war danger and everything is exaggerated. We can clearly see that this is not the case.
Otherwise why would Zelensky send such messages to the Hungarian prime minister or to Hungarians?
Okay, okay, okay. Please, because he cuts my throat for Hungarian everything, or something like that, and one of his friends.
Do you want a sandwich?
No thanks.
Why?
Hi! Hello! Hi! How are you?
Fine thanks, and you?
Great thanks.
And now a quick interview?
Still no.
Why?
The maximum you got out of me was that question, and you see, even you felt uncomfortable because they said you were stammering — but I think you were very good.
For me it is uncomfortable that afterward that… who was it… the body language analyst said incredible things.
Wait, listen to this one thing. Were you aware that there was a wasp on you there?
Yes, it was there.
Okay but let’s clarify this at the beginning, because we really don’t want trouble, and I’m glad you saw us and I wish you good work.
What happened today in Hungary, that the Ukrainian money couriers were caught — how much does this bring us closer to peace and restarting the Druzhba pipeline shipments?
I do not really understand the question, because the story that these are legal money couriers transporting money from Raiffeisen from Austria along the M5 to Ukraine is a cheap lie.
These are obviously black funds.
What did they think, that sooner or later they would not be caught?
What should be done? Should we just let it happen?
And whose money is this? Where is it going? How much of it will stay here? Are there answers to these questions?
The Ukrainians know that as long as there is a sovereign national government in Hungary, Hungary will stay out.
We will not send soldiers, we will not allow Hungarian money to be taken away, and we will not allow Ukraine into the European Union.
They want a pro-Ukraine government to come into power, led by a Ukraine-friendly prime minister.
But this will not happen in Hungary.
There will not be a pro-Ukraine government. And Hungary will not have a Ukraine-friendly prime minister.
This is as certain as we are standing here.
Orbán Viktor also said that a new world order is emerging. And we see that this will be decided between America and China. Russia clearly chose China.
Where do you think Hungary’s place is?
Because we see that Trump already introduced sanctions against those buying Russian oil and gas. Hungary got one year of exemption from these sanctions.
So where is our place? Next to China or next to America?
Well, I think Orbán Viktor is trying to maintain what is called connectivity — good economic relations with everyone.
But we can see that this does not work now.
Well nothing works immediately. Sooner or later something will emerge.
Hungary is not in a political or economic position to choose one side.
When Hungary chose sides in the First World War and in the Second World War, it paid a very bloody price — territorially and in human lives.
Orbán Viktor as prime minister must decide very wisely so that the Hungarian nation survives.
Did you come here today as a counter-protester?
Well I cannot exactly say that. I tried to come to this demonstration and I was curious whether they would let me in.
And what reactions did you get from the protesters?
The sign clearly says that people are killed with Russian gas prices. So clearly there is an anti-Russian narrative present.
And here it is, let’s say, a relatively pro-Russian demonstration.
Yes, I have protested before, I have spoken about this before, even in my community.
They asked me then whether I hate all Fidesz supporters.
I answered that my mother also voted for Fidesz. Should I hate her too?
We must live together with our compatriots.
Yes, yes, we also saw that.
It says that people are killed with Russian oil.
That is right.
A Christian person would not do such a thing.
Now this sign with this text does not belong here, this is a Fidesz event. Go to the Tisza party supporters.
But isn’t it true?
No.
Why?
Because you can bake bread with it.
And transport medicine and food.
Hi everyone! It looks very good, there are many of us now.
You cannot run much else with it, so he is not right.
They should take it away from him.
This was our report from in front of the Ukrainian Embassy.
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